Wednesday, June 15, 2011

The Real Story of the Hatfields and the McCoys!

The Hatfields and the McCoys Feud

Myth, Legend and History

By Big Jim Charles, CSR


The myths and legends surrounding the world famous Hatfield-McCoy Feud persist despite reams of research and well researched books that have drawn a different picture of the infamous 19th century vendetta than the stereotypical portrayal of backwoods vengeance that has haunted Southern West Virginia and Eastern Kentucky for well over a hundred years.
Ironically the primary story BEHIND the Hatfield-McCoy Feud reveals a fairly common and modern cause for a dispute — a lawsuit over property rights.
That's right, over a century of myths, legends and rumours to the contrary, the famed feud was not started over a fiddle, or a pig or a romance gone wrong.
Also the participants of the famed feud were hardly the backwoods barbarians that the yellow press (followed by sensationalistic book authors later and motion picture and television portrayals) made them out to be.
Many folks forget that in the period between 1850 and 1900, backwoods West Virginia and Kentucky were culturally no different than upstate New York and backwoods New Jersey.
Ironically the famous "Hillbilly" stereotype owes more to the writings of a sensationalistic author than to real life rustic mountain people. Far from being the "barbarians" depicted in lurid accounts by yellow journalists, the Hatfield and McCoy families consisted of ordinary citizens. Anderson "Devil Anse" Hatfield himself being a school superintendent, elected official and a businessman at various points in his life. His grandchildren included lawyers, doctors and businessmen.The primary individual responsible for the most violent epoch of the fued was Perry Cline, a practicing lawyer who was kin to Randall McCoy.
How did this portrayal of "American Barbarism" as it was called come about?
Through the popularity of an author who single handedly created the stereotype of the lazy, ignorant, violent hillbilly as a tribute to the "border novels" of Sir Walter Scott.
Mary Noailles Murfree (January 24, 1850-July 31, 1922) wrote several popular novels and short stories under the pen name Charles Egbert Craddock. She single handedly created the "Hillbilly" stereotype in her popular books such as "In the Tennessee Mountains" which had gone through a whopping 11 editions by 1885, and The Ordeal: A Mountain Romance of Tennessee" which was still in print by
People who read these "colorful" novels mistakenly assumed her books were authentic as she was born near Murfreesboro, Tennessee. She began writing under her pen name in the 1870s. Murfree actually had very little first hand experience with rural mountain folks and based her version of them on Scottish Highlanders in books like "Rob Roy." She called them, "ignorant," "untutored" and "primitive," as well as "superstitious." Most of their activity is made up of drinking, gambling and feuding.
She was so popular, other authors jumped on the Hillbilly bandwagon and some of them became best selling authors too. So when newspaper editors up North read realistic accounts of the skirmishes in the mountains they were furious and wanted the reporters to give readers a Mary Murfree-ized picture of the feudists.Dispatches to reporters from New York read, "Add local color!"
So they did. Anderson Hatfield became "Devil Anse" terror of the Tug River Valley. In reality, Hatfield was a businessman and school administrator during his lifetime. Albeit he did enjoy bear hunting.
The harsh feelings between Hatfield and "Ran'll" (Randall or Randolph, depending on the accounts) McCoy actually began during the civil war when Anderson Hatfield was a member of an irregular volunteer unit of Confederates known as the Logan County Wildcats. Hatfield was credited with the killing of a Union General named Bill France. Ironically "Devil Anse" was accompanied by one of Rand' ll' McCoy's kinfolk on this mission, and France may actually have been shot by a McCoy. But Ran'll McCoy blamed Hatfield for the murder of his friend. This incident laid the groundwork for animosity between Hatfield and McCoy which would be utilized later by a greedy lawyer who would cash in on Ran'll McCoy's animosity towards "Devil Anse".
There were hard feelings between the two families over the Civil war incident. However the various stories about "how the feud started over a pig" or "how the feud started over a fiddle" or the suspiciously "Romeo and Juliet" romance between Johnse Hatfield and Rosanna McCoy had little if nothing to do with the feud itself.
Ran'll McCoy did sue Floyd Hatfield for stealing his pig but when Floyd Hatfield won the case in 1878, it hardly set off a genocidal feud. The American Civil War, the politics that descended from it and a backroom attempt to steal timber rights are what caused the famed feud. Right before the feud itself began, Devil Anse was making his primary living in the timber business and a lawyer across the river tried to swindle him out of some property rights. Hatfield took him to court and won -- unfortunately for Devil Anse as it caused Randall McCoy to fixate upon him as the author of all his woes.
Following the Civil War, politics could get rough in rural areas with former rebels registered as Democrats and former Union soldiers registered as Republicans. It was not unusual for the Blues and the Grays to shoot it out in rural areas as late as the 1920s on election day. In August of 1882, in Kentucky a trio of McCoys assaulted Ellison Hatfield on election day, stabbing and shooting him in Kentucky. Ellison was carried to a nearby home and his family was notified. The McCoys were taken into custody by the Hatfields.
"Devil Anse" Hatfield decided that if the victim lived, the trio would be handed over to the courts. If he died, they would be killed in retribution. When Ellison Hatfield died, Tolbert, Pharmer, and Randal McCoy, Jr. were tied to trees and executed. Anderson Hatfield was never convicted of the murders. Remember, Anderson Hatfield was a well respected citizen in Logan County. In his lifetime he was a lawman, elected official and a school administrator. Hardly the backwoods barbarian he was remade into (by the yellow press) in order to appeal to readers of Murfrees dubious novels.

The key to the feud was an ongoing timber dispute between Anderson Hatfield and Perry Cline an attorney in Pike County Kentucky who lusted for the timber property "Devil Anse" controlled. Cline never forgave Hatfield for besting him in court years earlier.
Lawyer Cline realized that his distant cousin Randal McCoy had harbored a grudge against Hatfield since the early 1870s and Cline exploited that animosity to create the most violent incidents of the feud in the 1880s when Bounty Hunters drove the Hatfields deeper and deeper into the backwoods.
Cline got the ear of the governor of Kentucky and had warrants filled out against the Hatfield family. Shortly thereafter a small army of bounty hunters descended upon Logan West Virginia trying to cash in on his scheme. There were some minor skirmishes between the different parties throughout the late 1880s before the hostilities ceased. Despite losing several of his children over the feud, Hatfield secretly met with Perry Cline and agreed to give him the timber rights to the property he controlled. Cline met with politicians in Kentucky and West Virginia and the bounty hunters were called off and the feud basically ended, despite a brief shoot out -many years later - on election day in 1911. It was later claimed that 20 family members from both sides perished during the course of the infamous feud.
For the famed 1897 photograph of the family the Hatfields were asked to go back inside and bring out some guns...Which is why most of the firearms in the portrait tended to be 20 years out of date. They were basically family heirlooms. "Devil Anse" Hatfields children and grandchildren were businessmen, school teachers, farmers, lawyers and doctors. Randall McCoy's family consisted of honest farmers, businessmen, educators and professionals... Hardly the backwoods barbarians from a Mary Murfree novel.
T.C. Crawford's 1889 book "An American Vendetta,"about the Hatfields is also responsible for the view of the clans as murdering barbarians. Todays mythical image of the " Hatfield-McCoy Feud" and the combatants is based more on myths created by Murfree, Crawford and yellow journalists who covered the feud itself as it was going on -in a classic example of yellow journalism - more than reality.
Which is how quaint claims of the incident being sparked by a pig or a fiddle or a star crossed romance got embellished. The first generation of authors who wrote about the feud were familiar with the "hillbilly" novels of a decade earlier and their popularity began to exaggerate the facts in order to make the participants seem more like the characters in such popular books as "In the Mountains of Tennessee" and other backwoods fantasies.
For the best source in print about the famed patriarch of the Hatfield family and an excellent overview of the feud itself, this author recommends — "The Tale of the Devil: The Biography of Devil Anse Hatfield " by Dr. Coleman Hatfield and Robert Y. Spence from Woodland Press.

67 comments:

Lynn said...

thanks for the truth about the Hatfields and McCoys. I hope the families have resolved the problems from the past. I never knew they were educated folks.

Anonymous said...

I don't know anything about the Hatfields and McCoys, but there are some major problems in those parts around Gilbert, WV. If you are planning on going to the area be willing to come home empty handed. Theft from the visitors is paying for the massive drug activity in the area. The locals are stealing every night to support their prescription drug addictions. Please make sure you are willing to donate to drug cause before you travel to the Hatfield and McCoy trails for fun. My trip was anything but fun!

Anonymous said...

I am a direct descendant of the Hatfield family and I must say that there are some things that get lost in translation and time. I never knew it got so horrid and bloody. But I am disappointed because the direct descendants of the Hatfield family are not listed. My grandfather should be up there.

Anonymous said...

Don't know where you got some of your stories about the feud but you are way off course on the truth Mike! Number 1 Perry Cline was no kin to Randolf McCoy. It was Asa Harmon McCoy which married Perry Clines Sister and Asa whom was friends with William H. Francis Jr. known as "Bill France". Bill was no general, Bill was a Justice of the peace in Pike Co. Ky. from 1855-1861 and was Bush Wacked and shot to death by Devil Anse Hatfield and his clan at Peter Creek, Phelps Kentucky in 1863 Have you not read the stories of Devil Anse Hatfield being a Back Woods Bush Wacker during the civil war. Where did you get such stories of Devil Anse being such an innocent bystander as you have portrayed him to be.

Anonymous said...

i appreciate this as a relative to them. i am writing a book on them as an intrest topic so this is helpful. THANKS!

D.Akers said...

This is for anonymous speaking about a visit to Gilbert WVA. We stayed in Man WVA. and was in Gilbert frequently which are both located in Logan County. This was from the last week of March 2012 til the second week of April 2012 and was my first visit there and everyone we met was very hospitable and friendly. My son and 10 yr. old was riding the mountain trails every day and myself and the 6 yr. old spent time walking the small towns and exploring. No one tried to take my purse or even speak a disrespectful word to me. My sons RZR stayed parked outside our room every night unchained and off the trailer as well as the very expensive sound system he has in his truck and no one touched either which would bring good money. Nothing was stolen from our room. I did hear about a few drug dealers from other states trying to sell RX drugs there getting ripped off but thieves and drug addicts exist every where. I enjoyed learning about the Hatfield/McCoy history. I didn't meet anyone with the hillbilly, ignorant attitude that is often stereotyped but I did meet many friendly, hardworking and honest people which appeared to care very much about their families and neighbors.

Anonymous said...

Wow, I have done tons of research on the Hatfield and McCoy feud. This Article is extremely biased towards the Hatfields. I have found few sources from the McCoy side, most of my research comes from Hatfield accounts and it is clear that the Hatfields were the vastly more responsible for the feud. Perry Cline was not a cousin of Old ' Ranel, Randolph McCoy. Devil Anse Hatfield stole Perry Cline's land. The swindler was Hatfield. Perry's father gave him 5,000 acres. Hatfield's father gave Hatfield about 50 acres. Perry Clines was 13 when his father died and the land given to him. Hatfield argued that Perry cut timber on Hatfield's land instead of his own. So because it was ruled that Young Perry Cline accidentally cut a few trees on Hatfield's 50 acres the W VA court saw fit to award Hatfield 5,000 Acres as damages after 4 years of court battles. So who swindled who? Perry became an attorney after he lost the land, by the way. Perry did not drive the feud, he sought justice for, the murder of his sister's nephews and then later, His sister's son Jeff, as well as another Nephew and Niece of his sister's against the responsible parties, that by the way were growing fat on the land that William Anderson "Devil Anse" Hatfield stole from him.

Anonymous said...

Being the 3 times great grandson of Col. John Dils the legal guardian of Perry Cline. I am sure their was a great interest in what Devil Anse Hatfield owned. But just as a bystander, tying the 3 McCoy boys to a tree and then executing them and then engineering a raid and blowing off the heads of 2 of the McCoy girls. That is 5 counts of premeditated First Degree Murder for all involved, and if they were currently in Texas, they would very likely get the needle.

Anonymous said...

Anderson Hatfield is my great great great grandfather I would like to say that the writer is fairly correct in most of the statements made but there definately needs to be a bit more fact checking

Anonymous said...

My great grandmother was Julia Hatfield and I cannot find any information on her. Does anyone know this name? Thanks

Lisa said...

Hello I'm the 4th great granddaughter of Floyd Hatfield as I read some of the post and stories from everyone I do agree with some of the info on the family but there are still a lot of miss information as well. They are proud people. The Hatfield family was much larger then the McCoy family. In spit of the hard times and loss both family indured we need to keep the history going for the next generations.

Real McCoy said...

Much of what you write is ill informed speculation. I will refer you to Truda Williams McCoy's book The McCoy's : Their Story.
I am the great great great grandson of Randolph McCoy. I think I have a better grasp of our family history than anyone outside of the blood. Yes, my grandfather was angered over the sow, they had his brand. It hardly was the reason for the feud though. The feud began with the killing of Bill Staton, cousin of the Hatfield's. Staton was killed by Sam McCoy, also known as "Squirrel Huntin' Sam" after Staton ambushed the both of them and shot Sam's brother Paris McCoy. Sam was accused of murder, and was exonerated because self defense was proven in the court room. Tensions were strong between our families before that incident as well due to civil war crimes committed by Anderson "Devil Anse" Hatfield's rogue group of "Logan Wildcats" , perhaps the writer of this blog should actually research a matter before writing as if they have some form of authority on the subject.

Sincerely,
David M. McCoy
Son of Frederick M. McCoy
Grandson of Jobie McCoy
Great Great Grandson of Wendell McCoy
Great Great Great Grandson of Randolph "Ol' Ran'l" McCoy

Anonymous said...

if someone has some real facts and the time please send as much info as you can to thompsonzachery93@yahoo.com. Thank you

Gen said...

My great great grandfather is the "Bill France" that you speak of. We knew of him as William Francis (or France, as my maiden name was). I never knew him of course, --just the stories...butalways knew he was killed by Devil Anse Hatfield. My grandmother once gave me an actual picture of Devil Anse. -
Geneva France Burton Coleman (Decendant of Joe France, Jr.; Joe France, Sr., William "Bud" Francis, and William H. Francis.

Anonymous said...

Gilbert and Man are located in Mingo County, wva. Not Logan. I am related to the Hatfields and grew up in Mingo county, twenty minutes from Logan, wva.

Anonymous said...

Dang, dude...they sure told you!!!

Anonymous said...

Man is in Logan County and Gilbert is in Mingo County.

Anonymous said...

I am grateful to all comments about the feud alot of truth and rumors will always play a part but every time I visited West Virginia I was always interested in the stories my uncle my uncle Joe Hatfield would share with us may he rest in peace

Larry said...

i am a direct descendant of Devil Anse Hatfield he was my great great great great great grandfather.

Anonymous said...

The Hatfields seem to be the cause of this . Jim Vance makes me sick along with,the rest of that family. In my eyes the should have genecided the Hatfield family. They thought they were above the law.

Anonymous said...

Sorry but I don't see the same as the some of you. Jim Vance was bad but McCoy carried on this fued in the name of God and taught hate to his children. You don't kill people in the name of God.

Anonymous said...

Perry Cline and Bad Frank suck.

Anonymous said...

Ok yes my mom has always told me that it started over land and i agree with this lol. i am related to the Hatfields which is kinda creepy lol.

Anonymous said...

I find it very hard to believe that a lawyer would have anything to do with manipulation and greed. Even 130 years ago they were parasites without a soul. Kill all lawyers.

Crystal D. Jenkins said...

I am a Hatfield my grandmother was Ella Hatfield the Daughter of Ellison Hatfield. She would tell my Dad all kinds of storys about what went on. And yes from what my Dad would tell me both sides could have stop'd it at any time. They let pride stand in the way. They both done wrong.

Anonymous said...

Thanks D. Akers for setting them straight I am from West Virginia not as southern as Logan county but go there often . It is nothing like the person above made it out to be!

JamesF said...

I think I saw this on the Flinstones. Anyway it is some interesting history. I am glad to hear of the peace treaty signed between the families. It certainly brought hardship to both sides.

Anonymous said...

my great, great grandfather worked for the Hatfields in the timber yard. From the legend that my great grandmother told me. It all started over the land, and everything else just escilated the animosity between the families. But she did say that Hatfield was a nice guy so long as you didn't cross him. they didn't know the McCoys that well since her father worked for Hatfield.

Anonymous said...

I just wish you all would learn to spell and use correct grammar before posting.

Anonymous said...

Wow, you were saying how educated WVA was/is? I'm just kidding it's nice to have actual relatives talking about their versions of the story. Makes it interesting to see how things change over time.

My ancestors weren't much better, heck the WOP's that live in NY and NJ still aren't.

Mel said...

My ex son in law claims there is a picture of his grandmother (Mary Lou Mitchell)as a small child sitting on her grandfather (or great grandfather)Devil Anse's lap. How do I find out if they are related?
I am also researching my family tree, the Brownings, which married in to the Hatfield family. My family also married some in the Vance family.
I watched the series and thought it was very sad to think of all the lives lost and changed forever because of hatred on BOTH sides. I hope the romanticizing of the story doesnt bring back old feelings and prejudices between the families

Anonymous said...

I recently had business in Beckley, WV and decided to make a day trip to the area where the Hatfields and McCoys used to live. I expected to see hillbillies living in dilapidated shacks, but I found regular people living normal lives in modern homes. While I am sure that there are many educated people living in the area, there are also a lot of uneducated, low-class, meth heads and Oxy freaks living there.

Anonymous said...

it could be that the whole thing started over a pig or over timber. But I do know for sure it has given people a lot to write about.
I say God bless the souls who parished during the bad time. And may the desendents remain at peace.

Anonymous said...

They say "holding a grudge is like letting someone live rent free in ones head"
Can I get an Amen to that?

Anonymous said...

The real victims as always are the American Indians from which the land was taken a century ealier. Talk about feuds! The U.S, government stole the land then sold it or gave it to the wealthy of the country. 13 to 20 Hatfields and McCoys dead...just a drop in the bucket compared to the millions of American Indians killed by our government for the same reason as this feud...land and money which equals GREED!!!!!
that is the real cause of all of this.

Anonymous said...

History is history. People have been fighting over land for thousands of years. Wether you call it fueding or war people die. Today its called gangs. Still fighting over land. Blocks ,corners or whatever. People still being killed. I'm just sayin...

Anonymous said...

The passamaquoddy indian tribe just won another settlement for several milllion dollars. The tribal government wants to keep it to make investments for the tribes future. The tribal member families want the money to be divided up equally and given to all of the families..... So I guess even native amaericans are greedy.

Anonymous said...

One time my each of my nuts were feuding inside my nutsack so now I named the left one McCoy and the right one hatfield ..

Texas Gal said...

I really wanted to thank the ancestors of all the families regarding the Hatfield-McCoy Feud for posting your comments. I found the History Channel mini series interesting and enjoyed your posts as well. I think that it was interesting primarily that it is a story about our American History. Since watching it I googled a bit about the story and find it intriguing. I don't think it matters who started it or who was at fault. It told the story of how hard life was back then for anybody. But the biggest story that it tell is how vengeance has a snowball affect. When we buy into it's fury it just gets bigger and bigger. -- Thanks to all for sharing on here.

Anonymous said...

I am a direct descendant of the Scooter Poo Gang....
This is great reading and by all accounts, noone knows all the truth and never will.
It died with them prior to 1900.
Nice work tho

Anonymous said...

I live in a different part of Appalachia, North Georgia, but we've had our own feuds here, so it's not hard to understand how these things happen. They usually start over land/money and one thing leads to another. It's just part of the human condition, I think, though not a good part.

I've read some about the Hatfields and McCoys but don't claim to be an expert. It is interesting to read comments from descendants of the families. They have a better perspective on what happened than those looking on from afar.

I suspect things there might be like here, there are things that we'll talk about, within the family, that we won't discuss with anybody else.

I watched the first night of the History Channel show and didn't care much for it. There were some things that even I knew weren't factually accurate. I felt it was Hollywood's version of Appalachia, made by people who have no understanding of the region. On top of that, the accents were terrible. Hollywood just never gets regional accents, especially Southern ones, right. They view things through the distorted lens of what they think a "hillbilly" is.

Anonymous said...

The posts are superficial and should be considered bogus.

Real relatives would be informed not popcorn chawing TV robots with no meaty documentation.

Be professional!

Anonymous said...

I grew up in in the hills of Logan Co. in a holler known as Rum Creek. I lived with people with all of these last names, Hatfields, McCoys, Chambers, Vances, Adkins. I take offense to all of the remarks about being thieves, backwoods, ignorant people. My family history is well rooted in Logan, Man, Gilbert. We are not drug addicted, thieves who want anything from visitors. I love being a Hillbilly and am very proud to have been raised in those mountains by a hard working coal mining daddy and a community full of church going, respectful, whoop ur butt for getting out of line people.

Kim said...

Jiminy, are we still going to sling mud over who was the criminal in this? Does it really matter who swindled who, or who killed more people in cold blood? Holy crap, guys! Both sides are guilty of letting this whole thing get way out of hand and either of them could have ended it.

And shame on you if you advocated more killing. You're exactly why we can't have nice things.

Anonymous said...

There is a certain proudness to being a "West by God Virginian" that I share with my mother. It has the nicest people, best land, and still the best looking women. I'm not sure what the jokes were always about.

Anonymous said...

Why are they, as you say, "stealing every night" don't they know that you can double your profit if you steal in the day also (Emphisis On The Sarcasm)! Anywhere you go in the world some people are stealing, I believe you'd be more likely to run across massive crime in a big city simply because there are more people there! The fact is there are hard workin people & there are crooked people looking to steal anywhere you go!!!!!!

Anonymous said...

Hope you never need council in a court issue, or maybe that's the problem that you've been in court far too often!!

Anonymous said...

Ok as bad as what happened to the indians is: #1 They did not believe anyone owned the land, #2 there weren't Millions killed, the indian tribes, for the most part, lived in small groups! What killed more indians than any gun, was the diseases that they had no immunity to!!

Anonymous said...

I couldn't read this. Try using paragraphs.

Old Hooty said...

I've heard much about the Hatfield/McCoy feud as well as a number of different versions of it. In my humble opinion, the only way to get the truth about that feud would be to go back in time. I do know there was a pig involved along with the romantic affair.

My hope for the future is that nothing like that ever happens again

Anonymous said...

There are many versions of what happend between these two families. Some parts of this story have been historically verified. Some parts of this story are the stuff of myth and legened. One thing that can never be argued is that both families are now a conspicious part of American history. After nearly 150 years the facts surrounding these two families are still being disputed. there are verying version of the "facts" that are excepted as historical truth depending on who you choose to believe. I think its time that we simply come to terms with the fact that parts of what happend between these two families will never be verified because the family members who know what really happend have long been burried. Everyone else, including the desentants of these historical families only know what someone else has related to them. As the saying goes, there are three sides to every story, your side, my side and what really happend.

Anonymous said...

Tell that to the jihadist...

Anonymous said...

David,
As a great great great grandson of Randall McCoy myself, I was wondering exactly where you fit in. You have a Wendell McCoy listed as your great great grandfather but Randall did not have any sons named Wendell. His sons were named James, from where I descend, Sam, from where Bo and Ron, organizers of the annual Hatfield McCoy reunion descend, Floyd McCoy, who moved away to Catlettsburg, Tolbert, Calvin, Pharmer, Randolph Jr, all killed in the feud, with only Tolbert having a son Melvin to carry on the name, and William who is a mystery because some say he died in grief because he actually took part in the killing of Ellison Hatfield but did not get caught and executed like his brothers. Others including Sam McCoy, said he moved out to Washington. As a 40 year student of the family I am always looking to learn more and find new relatives. Can hou shed some light on how Wendell ties to Randall McCoy?

Respectfully
Edwdard M. McCoy

Jobie McCoy said...

Edwdard M. McCoy

To shed some light for David, his father is Fred McCoy son of Jobie McCoy son of Wendal McCoy son of William McCoy son of Randolph McCoy who is son of John McCoy and Margaret Jackson these are the best records I could find I hope to see and meet some more family that is part of History in June at the reuion 2013.

Jobie McCoy jobiemccoy@sbcglobal.net

Anonymous said...

I am of Adkins, Vance, Hatfield, and Lambert blood, and even McCoy by marriage. The things people think of my ancestors and family irks me.
I even took up for Jim Vance. Heck, he is my 5th great uncle.
I say people who don't know jack shouldn't be talking smack.
Just how it is.

Anonymous said...

Thank you Jobie. I Thought He Meant The Feud Leader Randolph. The Son Of John Would Have Been A Cousin Of ThE Feud Randolph.

Anonymous said...

I am a Hatfield. I believe what my Dad told me and his Dad told him. I will not change the way I feel. I will tell you one thing. It was over land and Perry Cline was a rich man when he died. Figure it out.

Anonymous said...

The Hatfield and McCoy Feud Tour App.
http://www.hatfieldmccoyfeudtour.com/

Anonymous said...

the hatfilds killers of kids and woman they did not care, if it had McCoy blood kill it,anderson hatfild was call what that right he surely was

Anonymous said...

im a hatfield and still live in logan.i will cut down any mccoy who still wants a go at it....

Anonymous said...

I was married to one of the direct descendants of the McCoys, and let me tell you not all the McCoy's were educated. They were ignorant and superstitious and would fly off the handle over nothing. Most of the ones I knew didn't have over a 3rd grade education. By the way I divorced him.

Anonymous said...

A picture is worth 1000 words. Look up "Devil Anse Hatfield" on wikipedia dot org, and tell me if that looks like a highly educated bunch. Come on, who you kiddin'?

CoryMack said...

None of you know what you're talking about. I'm a descendant of the Hatfields and the McCoys. We're inbred. The feud started because we all smelled like mayonnaise and nobody would take a bath in that old Tug River.

We stunk up the joint and then decided to take it to the gun, cause that's what us hillbillys do.

Charles Burns McCoy's grandaughter said...

I am the daughter of a McCoy, and let me tell you "Big Jim Charles" most of the information that you've put on this blog is false. If you are going to post something to "inform" people then do you homework, have you even tried talking to the families?

Anonymous said...

Does anyone know the history of Tom Chambers and who he was related to?

Anonymous said...

Who the hell are you, anyway? Never heard your name before, but you post a diatribe about the feud, of which you know very little. Do some research dude and don't rely on any of the crap you read in Altina Waller's book. Her book is full of assumptions,& opinions & is very poorly researched. For instance Perry Cline is not related to Randal McCoy, his brother & 4 of his 1st cousins were married to Clines. I can see her book throughout your entire post.To the person who thinks all lawyers should be killed; I supposed that would include Cap Hatfield. Devil Anse cut timber off the Cline land for the 7 yrs it took the courts to decide to give it to him. That's how sure he was that it would be his. The Hatfields owned the courts in Logan County. Oddly enough, your account of the feud has a link on a Pike Cty tourism site as an example of the wrongful portrayal of Perry Cline. That's how I got here.

Debbie McCoy Autry
dau of Joseph McCoy
son of Floyd McCoy
son of Larken McCoy
son of Asa Harmon McCoy & Martha Cline

Anonymous said...

My mothers maiden name is Hatfield , so many of you say you are descendants . So , can any of you tell me , is there a website or a way to check by DNA if a person is a descendant , all of my family have passed so I have no way to trace but thought DNA might be a way to find out the truth. Is there by chance a DNA regestry of the hatfields? I have one memory of my grandmother showing me a family pix she had in her possession her hatfield relatives and she had a newspaper clipping of the feuding hatfields and it was the same pix or very close. My grandmother only said she thought it was her husbands family but couldn't be sure. I don't know what happened to the pictures when she died. My grandfather was Harry Leon Hatfield he died in an institution over 20 years after receiving a head injury in a construction accident. He lived in Norman Ok. When he died. I would like to know if there is. Way to find out , I wouldn't want to claim a family that is not mine but would like to know for sure.